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ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin 4 days 12 hours ago #3911908

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cahoots wrote: I'm glad that some have been returned .... what an awful thing to happen ... being uprooted from everything you know at such a young age must be terrifying.

It sounds like the world is getting smaller for Putin.


Some of the world maybe however he has strengthened ties with India S America Africa and China these lands have little interest in the war .Russian economy has not suffered badly with sanctions and the people are not rebelling on the streets .Look at France they seem to be in turmoil .Putin has health issues mainly Parkinson's but that won't stop him. I don't see the end of Putin anytime soon.
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ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin 4 days 7 hours ago #3911976

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I can't see Putin going anywhere not for the next few years ..
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ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin 4 days 4 hours ago #3912013

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cahoots wrote: I'm glad that some have been returned .... what an awful thing to happen ... being uprooted from everything you know at such a young age must be terrifying.

It sounds like the world is getting smaller for Putin.


This story is not as black and white as the anti Putinists would have you believe. The children being spoken about were evacuated from areas of Ukraine that had come under Russian control due to the fighting, most had been abandoned or their parents lost in the fighting. As a result they were sent into Russian territory where it was thought they would be safer until long term arrangements, including reuniting them with any surviving relatives could be undertaken. Many of the others were from orphanages and had been there unwanted for years, these were adopted out to Russian families.

Now there is no doubt that a percentage of these children where relocated against their will, but this was the same for unaccompanied children on the Ukrainian side of the front line as well, difference being that the Ukrainians could claim that they were their children, though as said many were not being cared for or had languished in orphanages for years. Those in orphanages, when they were adopted, went to families outside of Ukraine, mostly to "rich" western countries, and this also played a part in them not wanting to go to the seemingly poorer Russia.

But all in all this is a propaganda exercise, neither Russia nor the US are party to the Rome Agreement and Putin will never be arrested or put on trial. As was mentioned the US passed legislation declaring that they could use force, effectively invade the Netherlands if any of their people ended up in the Hague. Several high ranking US politicians who where seen as responsible for war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan have outstanding arrest warrants. There were even attempts to execute the warrants when some of these individuals were in the UK, the UK Government prevented that from happening.
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ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin 3 days 15 hours ago #3912086

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I was shocked at how many Ukrainian Children were stolen by Putin's evil army. My ABC said 700,000 which floored me. I was thinking maybe 5,000 children, but 140 times that was so much more extreme.
What can Putin gain from such blatant lies. Habit ? Psychosis, ..
Child soldiers...

Putin is just another evil and callous man who should be put away til he dies as a vicious mass murderer. A horrible human.
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ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin 3 days 15 hours ago #3912088

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I suspect Putin's no longer on the Air BnB list much anymore.
He's the self acclaimed Russian Despot for the 2020's.
Given his bitter anger fueled attack on the Sovereign state of Ukraine, he deserves no quarter. Especially because dialogue is useless against such liars.

Who do you think you're fooling Mr Putin?

Chamberlain should've said similar.
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ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin 3 days 14 hours ago #3912090

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Dan Dare wrote: I suspect Putin's no longer on the Air BnB list much anymore.
He's the self acclaimed Russian Despot for the 2020's.
Given his bitter anger fueled attack on the Sovereign state of Ukraine, he deserves no quarter. Especially because dialogue is useless against such liars.

Who do you think you're fooling Mr Putin?
>>> The same Muppets on TV last night. Swanning around Argentina & Spain. Trying to find Hitler's Legacy. B)
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Chamberlain should've said similar.[/quote ^5^5

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ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin 3 days 12 hours ago #3912109

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Dan Dare wrote: I was shocked at how many Ukrainian Children were stolen by Putin's evil army. My ABC said 700,000 which floored me. I was thinking maybe 5,000 children, but 140 times that was so much more extreme.
What can Putin gain from such blatant lies. Habit ? Psychosis, ..
Child soldiers...

Putin is just another evil and callous man who should be put away til he dies as a vicious mass murderer. A horrible human.



Maybe you should read the post above yours, Dan, the details that the 'news' channels forgot to tell you.
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ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin 3 days 9 hours ago #3912169

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Putin should have been history 15 years ago - he’s clung on to power by manipulation - and he’s adept at manipulation.
I don’t think he’d stop at anything to achieve his ambition and I wouldn’t trust him about anything or believe anything he says.

That’s just my personal opinion
(and, yes, I have read all the previous posts - reading them does not mean I have to agree with them or believe the info they contain.)
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ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin 3 days 6 hours ago #3912228

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I too have read the previous post Jane but have zero trust that Putin is a benign man caring for the children taken to Russia. The stolen children. It's all over the news everywhere!
Were he not an evil despot, then why do his rockets constantly land on schools, hospitals, power stations, apartment blocks, ... soft targets. I don't believe for a moment there's a shred of decency in that excuse for a human being. He is EVIL!

I am certainly no apologist for Putin's evil ways, nor should anyone be...
He is an evil War Criminal whose actions words cannot assuage.
To think otherwise is folly and just plain stupid. That man has no soul and needs to be locked up for the rest of his days.
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ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin 3 days 6 hours ago #3912231

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The Ukrainian authorities believe just short of 11,000 children are unaccounted for, 10,764 to be precise, although this figure changes as the war progresses and repatriations are made, few as they are, the Russians say it is closer to 2000 that are in their "care" and that upwards of 350 have so far been adopted out to Russian families.

Some outlets mention higher figures but the larger their figure the more unreliable is the source, not sure how aunty got into that category. Reality is that there is yet to be a proper accounting which is one reason any potential charges are well short of being justified. There is unfortunately the darkest explanation for the difference in those children unaccounted for which one must consider during a time of conflict and that is that they will not be coming back or going to Russia because they are deceased and also given the number of child trafficking rackets that were prevalent in Ukraine before the conflict that many have fallen prey to the traffickers.

For my mind at this point I would be happy just to know that they are away from the conflict zone and someone is looking after them, sorting out whose who and returning any to their original families, if they are wanted, or finding new homes in Russia or elsewhere can come later.

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