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2024 Presidential Race 4 months 3 weeks ago #3924607

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Runswithbeer wrote: “So, I think it’s very important, as you have heard from so many incredible leaders, for us at every moment in time — and certainly this one — to see the moment in time in which we exist and are present, and to be able to contextualize it, to understand where we exist in the history and in the moment as it relates not only to the past but the future.”
—Kamala Harris , Vice President of the Free World


Kamala really hit the nail on the head with that one. When I think about contextualizing the present, it reminds me that we are not bound by the the past but instead free to create our own future. And it will be free in the future that we can choose to be in the now. We choose to believe in history and create our own destiny but not live in the past, although in the past we chose to be in the present when planning for the future, which is now the future of the past.
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Ambriel wrote: This is like watching a game of Top Trumps! :lol: -
It’s amusing to onlookers who are not rooting for either side - but we gotta pace ourselves - we’ve got another 18 months of this to go! :blink: :lol:

- I’m hoping both the old fellas do us all a favour and drop out of the running long before the end. wink.png





What we are hearing mostly are the extremes from both sides, and unfortunately, the candidates who are outwardly declaring for the Presidency are the worst, and most dangerous to Democracy, we have to offer. Trump can only be viable because of Biden, and Biden is only viable because no Moderate Democrat has stepped forward. The world has gone crazy, in the stead of trying to assure equal rights to every US citizen we are haggling over transgender rights, to replace/ compete with natural born females,and the religious freaks are just eating it up and multiplying their support for the biggest threat to Democracy since Adolph Hitler, Donald Trump. Too far right or left or spells doom for Democracy for this country, and without understanding what true socialism is, all we are seeing are the genius' who erroneously spelling out propaganda of the dangers of socialism, and supporting the true threat to Democracy. The US political system is in dire need of overhauling, and the removal of Corporate America from the electoral process, except for as private citizens. We need to return a country of the people, for the people, all the people, separate from religion, the most divisive ideology known to mankind.


It's the freaks that think/believe people can be called themselves anything they want and people have to respect the fools identity of the day.
Keep referring to religious people as freaks because of their religious theory is exactly the same as referring the Woke theory are freaks, the critical race theory are freaks and the theory of socialism believers are freaks and only BLM theory are freaks. The more of the theories people believe are bigger freaks. And the biggest freaks will vote for the one that has the same freaky beliefs they have.
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Jane R wrote: That's just a tiresome ad hominem attack but does in no way answer my question. As I suspected, lies, lies and more lies. Trump is a patriot in the true sense of the word, the accusation of selling info to the Taliban is laughable and another pathetic attempt to smear him.


That information came directly from Fox News!


I avoid all news channels so can't be fed propaganda. How about you answer my question instead of posting silly jokes.


So? You just make up things? Or the neighbors told you, Or, Tucker Carlson talks to you in your dreams? Theres got to be some searching out for the truth.



The days of relying on 'the news' for our news are long gone. One thing is for sure, you won't get any news worthy of the name on msm. For instance, I have just watched a video of your esteemed President Biden hosting the US Airforce football team 'Falcons' at the White House. He was supposed to be presented with a ball signed by the team, a helmet and a football jersey. He only took the sweater and suddenly turned around and left..and there he is wandering away down the hall, as everyone leaps to their feet with bemused looks on their faces. The men holding the football and helmet look stunned.
Now tell me when this is broadcast on CNN or whichever channels you get your 'news' from.



so where are you getting your information from, that somehow is more accurate than any news or media channels?

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2024 Presidential Race 4 months 3 weeks ago #3924652

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Vegemite Kid wrote: so where are you getting your information from, that somehow is more accurate than any news or media channels?


I used to read between the lines of MSM content to try to determine reality. Today, there are investigative reporters and talking heads finding and reporting the missing details online. These are a few.

Matt Taibbi
Kim Iversen
Sabby Sabs
Chris Hedges
Richard Wolff
Aaron Maté
Max Blumenthal
Glenn Greenwald
Jimmy Dore

Forbes is good for the highlights of congressional hearings. It's interesting how forgetful some are and how aggressive others are in those matches.

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Robin wrote:

senile1 wrote:

Ambriel wrote: This is like watching a game of Top Trumps! :lol: -
It’s amusing to onlookers who are not rooting for either side - but we gotta pace ourselves - we’ve got another 18 months of this to go! :blink: :lol:

- I’m hoping both the old fellas do us all a favour and drop out of the running long before the end. wink.png





What we are hearing mostly are the extremes from both sides, and unfortunately, the candidates who are outwardly declaring for the Presidency are the worst, and most dangerous to Democracy, we have to offer. Trump can only be viable because of Biden, and Biden is only viable because no Moderate Democrat has stepped forward. The world has gone crazy, in the stead of trying to assure equal rights to every US citizen we are haggling over transgender rights, to replace/ compete with natural born females,and the religious freaks are just eating it up and multiplying their support for the biggest threat to Democracy since Adolph Hitler, Donald Trump. Too far right or left or spells doom for Democracy for this country, and without understanding what true socialism is, all we are seeing are the genius' who erroneously spelling out propaganda of the dangers of socialism, and supporting the true threat to Democracy. The US political system is in dire need of overhauling, and the removal of Corporate America from the electoral process, except for as private citizens. We need to return a country of the people, for the people, all the people, separate from religion, the most divisive ideology known to mankind.


It's the freaks that think/believe people can be called themselves anything they want and people have to respect the fools identity of the day.
Keep referring to religious people as freaks because of their religious theory is exactly the same as referring the Woke theory are freaks, the critical race theory are freaks and the theory of socialism believers are freaks and only BLM theory are freaks. The more of the theories people believe are bigger freaks. And the biggest freaks will vote for the one that has the same freaky beliefs they have.




Freaks refer to the most extreme of their ideology, the propagandist will want this to appear about all who practice religion, such is the way of the Trump puppets. The majority of religious followers understand the seriousness of religious extremity in politics, which results in abolition of personal rights, censorship of material available to the public, interference in general elections, as well as manipulation and limitations of the electoral process and those registering for said process. The very practices of Texas/ Florida and most GOP controlled states. The United States was founded and built on promise of religious freedom, and our forefathers knew the dangers of religion influence politics, the whole world knows the dangers of religion influenced, politics, and only the religious freaks practice the extremism of their belifs and support the tyrannical leaders who wish to profit from it.

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Tranquillity I would still call that news. Online news and reporters opinions and additions is still news.

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Vegemite Kid wrote: Tranquillity I would still call that news. Online news and reporters opinions and additions is still news.


I thought this was about sources other than MSM/state media.

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It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the people
Livin' for today
Ah
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Livin' life in peace
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
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Tranquility wrote:

Vegemite Kid wrote: Tranquillity I would still call that news. Online news and reporters opinions and additions is still news.


I thought this was about sources other than MSM/state media.



it was about any sources - if one doesnt rely on any news sources, where does one get information.

I agree reading opinions going into depth about issues is good - but I wouldn't call that 'not news sources'.

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Vegemite Kid wrote:

Jane R wrote:

GerryM wrote:

Jane R wrote:

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Jane R wrote: That's just a tiresome ad hominem attack but does in no way answer my question. As I suspected, lies, lies and more lies. Trump is a patriot in the true sense of the word, the accusation of selling info to the Taliban is laughable and another pathetic attempt to smear him.


That information came directly from Fox News!


I avoid all news channels so can't be fed propaganda. How about you answer my question instead of posting silly jokes.


So? You just make up things? Or the neighbors told you, Or, Tucker Carlson talks to you in your dreams? Theres got to be some searching out for the truth.



The days of relying on 'the news' for our news are long gone. One thing is for sure, you won't get any news worthy of the name on msm. For instance, I have just watched a video of your esteemed President Biden hosting the US Airforce football team 'Falcons' at the White House. He was supposed to be presented with a ball signed by the team, a helmet and a football jersey. He only took the sweater and suddenly turned around and left..and there he is wandering away down the hall, as everyone leaps to their feet with bemused looks on their faces. The men holding the football and helmet look stunned.
Now tell me when this is broadcast on CNN or whichever channels you get your 'news' from.



so where are you getting your information from, that somehow is more accurate than any news or media channels?


I said main stream media news channels that are watched by the masses. Twitter, Al Jazeera and many independent journalists throw another light on the news we receive. I can't be doing with news channels with a one way slant and most have them have this. Only one side to Covid, only one side to vaccines, only one side to Ukraine war and so on. I prefer to hear both sides and reach my own conclusions, not someone else's.
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