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Trump Supporters at Iowa Rally See 'Civil War Coming........... 1 week 1 day ago #3703787

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Ah yes, "well known" like Trump winning the election, yet no evidence for the claims.

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With each reply you stretch credulity more and more, but then you're entitled to do as you wish.

In this case, trying to suggest, without evidence, without logic, without even common sense that the majority of those chanting "Let's go Brandon" at a NASCAR event in a southern Red State were actually Democrats is beyond unfathomable. Still we had a little chuckle, so thanks for the humor on what here is a bleak day.

Then trying to suggest that employers, who I'm sure the right once argued had the right to impose any condition on your employment, might dismiss employees because they both defied a condition of employment and may have put their fellow employees in danger is a removal of some fundamental right is again mirthful, especially when it involves those in Public Service, not least the military where if you're told to go somewhere you might actually get killed, you say yes and go.

Finally though you bring up a good point, though you got the actors confused, you want to see your version of CRT actually being implemented on the ground then you need look no further than the rights opposition to Ms Saule Omarova, a financial law expert at Cornell University, to head the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency. Her principle sin, she was born in the former Soviet Union where she received some of her early education and she might curtail some of the freedoms the banks have enjoyed under previous appointees, most of who came from the banking industry and were white men.

McCarthyism, Sexism, Racism, Misogyny, cronyism, corruption and a dash of CRT all wrapped up in the rights opposition to her appointment.
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Trump Supporters at Iowa Rally See 'Civil War Coming........... 1 week 1 day ago #3703979

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KayyGee wrote:

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JakBird wrote: Trump was beholden to Affluent White America and extremist right -wing groups...

Ask yourself where that information comes from. When there's only one side to the story it isn't difficult to control the narrative. The Russia hoax has already collapsed with the arrest of the executive in the Hillary campaign who started it. Two impeachment attempts also failed. Sure the rhetoric will continue, with the TV news redoubling its efforts to define Trump as a rabid extremist.

Thing is, it isn't working. CNN has become a laughingstock, a parody of actual journalism. The handful of non-left wing biased (you may think Fox is right wing, in the US there's doubt about it) news organizations are under constant attack, yet their ratings keep going up. Outside the US I doubt anyone's opinion of Trump will change, but the fact is, very few people in the US care what Europe thinks about anything political. Russia wants to slowly take over the EU by controlling energy supplies, they're welcome to it. The US is a Pacific nation now; what's happening on the Atlantic side just isn't that important globally, as France has so recently discovered. Japan, Australia, India and South Korea are far more important than the EU. The UK? Once Boris is gone I expect the UK will try to get back into the EU...which would be a good thing since the UK has the only credible military left in Europe.



Fox and it's commentaries throughout the trump administration was supportive of trumpism and it's extremist ideologies, and while some of it's broadcasting may have have tempered a bit in recent months, it still showcases and support hardcore right-wing extremist ideologists like Tucker Carlson.


Hmm, and what are MSN, CNN.. and all mainstream media except the right arm of the Democratic Party doing
their bidding.. bought and paid for handily. BTW they are failing miserably on their ratings. Probably because
they have no more mean tweets to report from Trump. I rather have one mean tweet than the fiascos and
failures of the Biden-Harris totalitarian regime. so many fiascos.. big ones. .




While admittedly the Biden Administration is not competent ,and they need to to do better, but, they were elected by the people ,and not via a coup, and have better ratings then Trump ever had.. Anything not Trump to you is totalitarian, over looking the fact Trump's intentions was to become lifetime President, after gaining the WH through collaboration with a foreign power, and then being shielded by an Extremist Right-Wing GOP from impeachment, clearly showing a joint effort by the GOP and Trump to overthrow a Democracy, and let's not even get started on why you would even describe the lower classes as "peons" as you did in a recent reply to another subject. Trump and his followers pose a serious threat to Democracy through their advocation of political change through civil war.


There's truth in what you say but I would mollify your criticism of the Biden Administration by pointing out that they are at this point streets ahead of the previous administration, if by no other measure than the list of significant issues they have been dealing with, any one of which would have, and did have, the prior mob in complete chaos and melt down.

The real criticism must go towards their ability to communicate their message, they are not skilled in the same propaganda messaging as the previous administration who just lied about everything and had those lies echoed loudly and constantly by their media lapdogs, though at times it is confusing as to whom was the pooch and who the master.

We can see this now as those "brave" souls who were to cowardly to speak up for their country's sake during Trump's reign of terror do so now in an effort to purge their guilt and hopefully redeem their character in the eyes of their family, friends and countrymen. What is revealed should chill every American to the bone, not least because Trump is still looking to implement more of the same in 2024 and this time there will be no 2028 chance to get rid of him, the 22nd Amendment will be gone and he will be king. dictator, Dear Leader for as long as he draws breathe.




You are absolutely correct to say Biden Administration is "streets" ahead of the previous Administration , and a lot of issues Biden is dealing with are pandemic related, it effects on not only the US economy, but world economies, no nation is immune. and whoever was in office, would be dealing with the same issues. It's funny, supporters of the previous administration will point to economic success of the Trump Administration overlooking the fact Trump was the recipient of a strong and growing economy, the results of the Obama Administration.


On your second point, I do not think Trump could get elected in 2024, and that is why many supporters of Trump are advocating for civil war, as witnessed recently in Iowa, but even were Trump not to run, and one of his supporters did, we would still be faced with the same dangers.

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trumps rallies are getting smaller and smaller, the number that actively support him is getting smaller, more and more candidates are not saying anything about him. The figure if they don't mention him his policies and complaints will go away. The trumpers will not start a civil war, there are still too many Americans that don't like him, don't trust him, and would fight back. Remember, there are some 360 million guns in the hands of all Americans not just the right wing voters and the traitors that attacked the Capitol. trump just works up small crowds. Notice he does not go to states that he lost too often, other then to complain. Remember way more voted against him then for him. More then in any other election. Liberals very well expect to make America better, we sure would not stand for a right civil war. Not a chance.
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And more and more moderate republicans see no point in supporting Trump. Americans threw Trump out of office, so what is his endorsement for a candidate going to do?

'A group of anti-Trump Republicans on Thursday endorsed a slate of Democrats and centrist Republicans in the 2022 midterm elections to fight against former President Trump’s hold on the party.
The Renew America Movement (RAM) announced it is backing a slew of lawmakers running for reelection. The group was founded by a group of moderates within the GOP after the Jan. 6 insurrection, which was fueled by Trump’s lies about the election being stolen in November.
“There is an urgent effort by Republicans and former Republicans to stem the tide of anti-democratic and lie-based Republican leaders in congress before it’s too late,” RAM said in an announcement. '
thehill.com/homenews/campaign/576762-ant...jalhOPO1hy9BYgYzSbBQ

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Trump Supporters at Iowa Rally See 'Civil War Coming........... 1 week 1 day ago #3704096

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Shadowman wrote: And more and more moderate republicans see no point in supporting Trump. Americans threw Trump out of office, so what is his endorsement for a candidate going to do?

'A group of anti-Trump Republicans on Thursday endorsed a slate of Democrats and centrist Republicans in the 2022 midterm elections to fight against former President Trump’s hold on the party.
The Renew America Movement (RAM) announced it is backing a slew of lawmakers running for reelection. The group was founded by a group of moderates within the GOP after the Jan. 6 insurrection, which was fueled by Trump’s lies about the election being stolen in November.
“There is an urgent effort by Republicans and former Republicans to stem the tide of anti-democratic and lie-based Republican leaders in congress before it’s too late,” RAM said in an announcement. '
thehill.com/homenews/campaign/576762-ant...1hy9BYgYzSbBQ[/quote


I believe if a competent moderate runs 2024, from either side of the isle, they will win and things will begin to calm down a bit, a reminder, southern states like Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi , along with Mid West States , like Iowa, have strong Trump supporters who will continuously work vigorously to suppress voter registration and participation in their respective states.

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along with Mid West States ...

AS a voter in one of those Midwest states I can attest to the veracity of your revelation on voter suppression. I'd explain in greater detail but I'm already late for the local meeting of the County Voter Suppression League. We haven't quite figured out who's vote we're suppressing for now, or how to go about it, that's why these meetings are so important. The plan is to bring in some experts from Chicago to advise us on manipulating election results...

The "voter suppression" that so often appears on the news is actually a requirement that only citizens be allowed to vote in elections. Yes, I know, it flies in the face pure democracy. I'm sure the more enlightened states in Europe already allow anyone living to register to vote, regardless of citizenship. I regret the US still clings to outmoded ideals that only those who are citizens should decide the fate of their own country.

I'm curious, does Brexit mean than Turks and Poles will no longer be allowed to vote for MPs? And what about Ireland? Are the current negotiations to include the right of republicans in the south to vote in northern elections too?

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Nobody is suggesting anyone other than citizens of a country can vote in it.

Lets keep the conversation real.smile.png
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In the US "vote suppression" is based on efforts to require proof of citizenship before registering to vote. If no proof is required large numbers of illegal aliens can then be registered, which is central to the "wide open borders" policy of the current administration. That's why "suppression" is used as a euphemism for "proof of citizenship". Substitute the longer term and the lurid news stories aren't quite so credible.

What does it take in the UK or EU to register to vote? Is there any kind of registration, or is it a strictly honor system, like many states in the US? If there's no requirement to prove citizenship, just what does prevent all those illegal Turks, Poles, Nigerians from voting?

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JakBird wrote: In the US "vote suppression" is based on efforts to require proof of citizenship before registering to vote. If no proof is required large numbers of illegal aliens can then be registered, which is central to the "wide open borders" policy of the current administration. That's why "suppression" is used as a euphemism for "proof of citizenship". Substitute the longer term and the lurid news stories aren't quite so credible.

What does it take in the UK ]or EU to register to vote? Is there any kind of registration, or is it a strictly honor system, like many states in the US? If there's no requirement to prove citizenship, just what does prevent all those illegal Turks, Poles, Nigerians from voting?


I’m U.K. & just moved home in the last few weeks & have registered to vote at my new property.
1 had to fill in a government form with name address etc.
2 provide proof of ownership council tax bill in my name
3 birth or marriage certificate
4 passport or driving license.
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