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TOPIC: Bakery in "gay cake" wins Supreme Court Appeal.

Bakery in "gay cake" wins Supreme Court Appeal. 1 year 1 month ago #3085995

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Rips wrote: Could it be a case of political correctness gone barmy .


Looking closely at the law and what it means has nothing to do with PC - more like LC - Legally Correct.
Tho I do see evidence that some care not about that either - lots of examples at the highest level of politicians (and others).

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Bakery in "gay cake" wins Supreme Court Appeal. 1 year 1 month ago #3086036

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Ok thanks for the info kedro however it’s still my opinion what’s happened since the refusal is massive over kill. Barmy

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Bakery in "gay cake" wins Supreme Court Appeal. 1 year 1 month ago #3086186

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It is often the case that groups other than those directly involved in a matter will run or join a legal case in order to establish a precedent that can be applied more broadly. Quite often for instance the government of the day might run a case in order to confirm that a new piece of legislation is going to function and be legal shown to function as the government intended. In these instance and similarly with other political groups they will select or join a matter that they perceived has the greatest chance to give them the result they are seeking.

However, I suspect in this case the fact that the appeal succeeded as a matter of free speech was likely not the outcome that was being sought and in fact a ruling that allowed discrimination on religious grounds against a specific protected class was the objective.

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Bakery in "gay cake" wins Supreme Court Appeal. 1 year 1 month ago #3087844

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I think they have every right to refuse to endorse an acceptance they do not hold with. Otherwise they would be hypocrites. Though I may not agree with their sentiments, I uphold their right to exercise refusal to endorse something they do not approve of.
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Bakery in "gay cake" wins Supreme Court Appeal. 1 year 1 month ago #3088837

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Aida wrote: I think they have every right to refuse to endorse an acceptance they do not hold with. Otherwise they would be hypocrites. Though I may not agree with their sentiments, I uphold their right to exercise refusal to endorse something they do not approve of.


I think it's the opposite. The bakers are the hypocrites. According to their religious tenants they are not to judge, that's God's purview not theirs. Jesus would have baked them a cake.
Though I must admit, when I see that lame fish on someone's storefront or on their business card I'm inclined not to use their services.

Oh damned! I'm oppressing the Christians. One more feather in their martyrdom cap!

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Bakery in "gay cake" wins Supreme Court Appeal. 1 year 1 month ago #3088839

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Aida wrote: I think they have every right to refuse to endorse an acceptance they do not hold with. Otherwise they would be hypocrites. Though I may not agree with their sentiments, I uphold their right to exercise refusal to endorse something they do not approve of.


I agree as the bakers were willing to bake the cake and ice it was just the wording .
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Bakery in "gay cake" wins Supreme Court Appeal. 1 year 1 month ago #3088841

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Rips wrote:

Aida wrote: I think they have every right to refuse to endorse an acceptance they do not hold with. Otherwise they would be hypocrites. Though I may not agree with their sentiments, I uphold their right to exercise refusal to endorse something they do not approve of.


I agree as the bakers were willing to bake the cake and ice it was just the wording .[/quot

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What you ( or anyone) sees as Gods law is not the point here - and neither is the question of legality of discriminating against gay people for anything else, that hasnt changed.

The only issue is whether one can refuse a service promoting or supporting a cause one does not agree with.
I am in 2 minds about this.

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Bakery in "gay cake" wins Supreme Court Appeal. 1 year 1 month ago #3088959

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It was a set up a deliberate act to force the bakers to go against all they believed in.
I’ve not read they openly hostile towards gays .
We all have our private thoughts.
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Bakery in "gay cake" wins Supreme Court Appeal. 1 year 1 month ago #3088965

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Rips wrote: It was a set up a deliberate act to force the bakers to go against all they believed in..


Really? how do you knows this?..:unsure:

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