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Brexit: 6 months 1 week ago #3148614

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Well, I have never been homeless, or "short", but I have come across a lot of folk who are, or have been, and I do not envy their circumstances, one bit. So, I'm with you on this one, Aida!

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Brexit: 6 months 1 week ago #3148621

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Several posts have been removed from this thread as uncalled for and personal.

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Brexit: 6 months 1 week ago #3148622

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Aida I too believe in God, But I think also sometimes people go overboard about certain sections of society. As far the homeless, a lot of them when questioned prefer the lifestyle, immigrants coming illegally into our country ( already unable to cope in some places), need to come through correct channels. Food banks to my mind stop people from helping themselves ( I have numerous reasons why I am of that opinion).
I want to assure you, I have every sympathy for genuine deserving cases , but there are too many who take advantage of the system.
The difference in our outlook is I believe where we reside, your in the country you have said many times. I am not, hence maybe where our attitudes are born. But I am far from hardhearted, if you feel so strongly maybe you could give somebody a home!
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Metropolitan...V ....Rural?
Take Rural every time!

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Brexit: 6 months 1 week ago #3148646

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Lexie78 wrote: Metropolitan...V ....Rural?
Take Rural every time!


And if the population keeps increasing as it is, future generations won't even know what rural is.

Villages are being joined up to make towns.

As I've said before, 30 years ago I lived in London and now where I am here in Exmouth, there is the same amount of traffic, etc as when I lived in London.

I've also pointed out the problems with air pollution in London, is this what we want for the whole of the UK, coz that's what's gonna happen and no I don't just mean traffic fumes.

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Polliyana wrote: Aida I too believe in God, But I think also sometimes people go overboard about certain sections of society. As far the homeless, a lot of them when questioned prefer the lifestyle, immigrants coming illegally into our country ( already unable to cope in some places), need to come through correct channels. Food banks to my mind stop people from helping themselves ( I have numerous reasons why I am of that opinion).
I want to assure you, I have every sympathy for genuine deserving cases , but there are too many who take advantage of the system.
The difference in our outlook is I believe where we reside, your in the country you have said many times. I am not, hence maybe where our attitudes are born. But I am far from hardhearted, if you feel so strongly maybe you could give somebody a home!


The food bank my church supports is in a town, an ex mining town which has just lost its power station with an overwhelming amount of wards of extreme poverty, where many poor people live in private landlord rented accommodation because of a lack of social housing. Rent or food ? The Working poor make up many of the recipients.
It is just 7 miles away from our rural location, and we villagers know how lucky we are, hence church projects for the needy.
You have no right to question my own home situation, but, since you do I live in a two bedroom bungalow with a husband who, because of illness has his own bedroom. I do what I can, in particular to help poor women deprived of proper sanitary protection.

Take a look at your own life. You believe in God and I take it you are not Muslim but Christian. Ask yourself, then, what would Jesus do ?
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The world does not need another Hitler but it looks like we are getting one.
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Brexit: 6 months 1 week ago #3148716

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I saw this today and have heard similar things said by farmers on our local politics show. Obtained from: www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1070117/Brexit...y-deal-Brixham-Devon

BRITISH farmer Richard Haddock revealed the EU gives more money to other member states than the UK when it comes to farming subsidies causing the real undercuts to the industry by allowing EU competitors to offer lower prices to UK supermarkets.

Talking to Sky News, the Brixham farmer warned Brussels' farming policies provide UK supermarkets with the freedom to buy supplies from other member states as by receiving more subsidies from the EU they can lower their prices more than British farmers. Mr Haddock explained this was the main reason he voted for Brexit when he was asked to justify his decision.

The farmer from Devon added people in the UK also voted to take control of their borders as the only thing that failed to go down before and after the referendum is the number of foreign students coming to the UK from the rest of the EU.

He said: “I’m a businessman. I’m a farmer and I represented farmers for 10 years in the national farm regime in this country, for England and Wales and in Brussels.

“And when you see the wastage in Brussels and the way we are, we are subsidised as an industry as many other industries are.

“But the European countries get more money than we do.

“We’re undercut, the supermarkets use that to a great thing so they use subsidised Europe to undercut our own industries.

“And in farming that is one of the biggest things that happens.

“And one of my other businesses is foreign students.

“We’ve seen no falls in those foreign students coming to the UK.

“There is a little bit of concern but permits and things are out so we have controls.

“That’s what everybody is really asking for.

“Here in Brixham we voted out. Even though there was a fiddle in the election, when our counted results where put in with Torbay so our MP now says today she represents South Devon or the South Hams and denies us.”

It comes as Environment Secretary Michael Gove warned farmers they face “considerable turbulence” if the UK leaves the EU with a no deal.

He claimed Theresa May's Withdrawal Agreement would protect the industry.

But Brexiteer Tory MP John Redwood rejected the claims and insisted the agreement would stop Britain leaving the EU for at least another two years.



Writing in this online diary, Mr Redwood said: “Brexit is huge opportunity to cut food miles, grow more of our own food.

"To rescue our fishing grounds and land more of our own fish, and to build bigger food processing industries close to good agricultural supply.

“That requires the Secretary of State to stop trying to delay Brexit and stop trying to scare us."

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Brexit: 6 months 1 week ago #3148718

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wendeey wrote: I saw this today and have heard similar things said by farmers on our local politics show. Obtained from: www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1070117/Brexit...y-deal-Brixham-Devon

BRITISH farmer Richard Haddock revealed the EU gives more money to other member states than the UK when it comes to farming subsidies causing the real undercuts to the industry by allowing EU competitors to offer lower prices to UK supermarkets.

Talking to Sky News, the Brixham farmer warned Brussels' farming policies provide UK supermarkets with the freedom to buy supplies from other member states as by receiving more subsidies from the EU they can lower their prices more than British farmers. Mr Haddock explained this was the main reason he voted for Brexit when he was asked to justify his decision.

The farmer from Devon added people in the UK also voted to take control of their borders as the only thing that failed to go down before and after the referendum is the number of foreign students coming to the UK from the rest of the EU.

He said: “I’m a businessman. I’m a farmer and I represented farmers for 10 years in the national farm regime in this country, for England and Wales and in Brussels.

“And when you see the wastage in Brussels and the way we are, we are subsidised as an industry as many other industries are.

“But the European countries get more money than we do.

“We’re undercut, the supermarkets use that to a great thing so they use subsidised Europe to undercut our own industries.

“And in farming that is one of the biggest things that happens.

“And one of my other businesses is foreign students.

“We’ve seen no falls in those foreign students coming to the UK.

“There is a little bit of concern but permits and things are out so we have controls.

“That’s what everybody is really asking for.

“Here in Brixham we voted out. Even though there was a fiddle in the election, when our counted results where put in with Torbay so our MP now says today she represents South Devon or the South Hams and denies us.”

It comes as Environment Secretary Michael Gove warned farmers they face “considerable turbulence” if the UK leaves the EU with a no deal.

He claimed Theresa May's Withdrawal Agreement would protect the industry.

But Brexiteer Tory MP John Redwood rejected the claims and insisted the agreement would stop Britain leaving the EU for at least another two years.



Writing in this online diary, Mr Redwood said: “Brexit is huge opportunity to cut food miles, grow more of our own food.

"To rescue our fishing grounds and land more of our own fish, and to build bigger food processing industries close to good agricultural supply.

“That requires the Secretary of State to stop trying to delay Brexit and stop trying to scare us."


Here's an article on what the National Farmers Union think :
www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan...uk-farmers-warns-nfu

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Brexit: 6 months 1 week ago #3148729

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Davegem wrote: Here's an article on what the National Farmers Union think :

I listen to actual farmers not Unions. How many farmers are in that Union, getting millions of EU subsidies for not doing anything with their land. If I was getting money for doing nothing, think I'd be against anything that would stop that.

I support the normal hardworking man/woman, not millionaires who don't bring any benefit to the country.

And that article didn't appear to support your anti Brexit argument anyway. What was the point you were trying to make?

Minette Batters, the union’s first female leader, is determined to be cautiously positive about Brexit, for which a majority of farmers voted. “We have to embrace the future … and make sure we have a goal and a plan,”

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wendeey wrote: Davegem wrote: Here's an article on what the National Farmers Union think :

I listen to actual farmers not Unions. How many farmers are in that Union, getting millions of EU subsidies for not doing anything with their land. If I was getting money for doing nothing, think I'd be against anything that would stop that.

I support the normal hardworking man/woman, not millionaires who don't bring any benefit to the country.

And that article didn't appear to support your anti Brexit argument anyway. What was the point you were trying to make?

Minette Batters, the union’s first female leader, is determined to be cautiously positive about Brexit, for which a majority of farmers voted. “We have to embrace the future … and make sure we have a goal and a plan,”



Oh, your rage that you see a no-deal slipping away seems palpable Wendeey,:laugh:
My point of posting the link was the NFU, the most right-wing of unions is expressing concern about a no-deal Brexit.
Dismiss it as you always do!
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