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Brexit, the General election and beyond. 11 months 1 week ago #3142525

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wendeey wrote: On Vote Remain in the EU facebook's page, they did a poll: www.facebook.com/voteremain/posts/2285862185017621

Right let's do a poll....see what people think about a few things. First..
IF there was a second referendum for our EU membership, knowing everything we know now, which way WOULD you vote..


The result was 59% Leave, 41% Remain lol think that backfired lol


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Brexit, the General election and beyond. 11 months 1 week ago #3142529

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wendeey wrote: On Vote Remain in the EU facebook's page, they did a poll: www.facebook.com/voteremain/posts/2285862185017621

Right let's do a poll....see what people think about a few things. First..
IF there was a second referendum for our EU membership, knowing everything we know now, which way WOULD you vote..


The result was 59% Leave, 41% Remain lol think that backfired lol


I guess these little things must offer the hard right Brexiteers a little solace; It appears to be going all wrong for them.

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Brexit, the General election and beyond. 11 months 1 week ago #3142663

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Would you rely on Facebook Users as an accurate barometer for political opinion? :lol:
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Eira wrote: Would you rely on Facebook Users as an accurate barometer for political opinion? :lol:


Time to grasp at those straws.

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Brexit, the General election and beyond. 11 months 1 week ago #3142706

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Eira wrote: Would you rely on Facebook Users as an accurate barometer for political opinion? :lol:

Why not , the whole B----y thing is a shamble any way . Thanks to the "Appeaser" . Just sayin"

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Brexit, the General election and beyond. 11 months 1 week ago #3142711

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Eira wrote: Would you rely on Facebook Users as an accurate barometer for political opinion? :lol:

Why not , the whole B----y thing is a shamble any way . Thanks to the "Appeaser" . Just sayin"


Your use of the word "appeaser" I find disgraceful.

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Brexit, the General election and beyond. 11 months 1 week ago #3142712

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If there is a second referendum there is no certainty as to the result. In June 2016 33 million voted and around 11 million failed to vote. Since then of the 44 million electorate about 2 million have passed away and roughly 2 million younger voters are now eligible to vote. We know now a lot more about the EU and the likely consequences of leaving. I voted REMAIN for many reasons and would vote the same way again. I personally know of 3 LEAVE voters who have since changed their and no REMAIN voters who would now vote LEAVE. My view is that there should be a further referendum offering Stay-in-the-EU or Leave-with-whatever-deal TM ends up with. The media tends to be pro-leave but numerous Facebook groups are strongly pro-remain with groups like Scientists for the EU, most MP's pro-remain and an assumed majority of younger voters being pro-remain. The young deserve a say in their future and to be frank though many older voters may well vote leave a good number of them will succumb to life's inevitable end before the effects of Brexit fully come home to roost. My gut feeling is that a second vote would be probably be pro-remain. Most remainers accept that there are issues with the EU but we are better trying to fix them from within, TM's deal is a very poor one from all standpoints, the consequences of a no-deal vary from a hiccup to total disaster. Buzz50 forum members as a group seem to be pro-leave but if any of you are members of Gransnet you will know that they tend to be pro-remain.

All confusing and impossible to predict with any certainty. Remain voters like me think that remain would win whereas leave voters argue that a second poll (which they don't want) would probably win for them. The only democratic way to settle the issue is to have a second public vote conducted honestly with the issues like immigration and the ECJ properly clarified.

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Merseymog wrote: The only democratic way to settle the issue is to have a second public vote conducted honestly with the issues like immigration and the ECJ properly clarified.


The only 'democratic' way is to accept the result of the Referendum where the majority vote was to Leave....that's democracy....not moving goalposts to satisfy the 'losing side': :huh:

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Brexit, the General election and beyond. 11 months 1 week ago #3142730

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Eira wrote: Would you rely on Facebook Users as an accurate barometer for political opinion? :lol:


No ! :woohoo:

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Brexit, the General election and beyond. 11 months 1 week ago #3142759

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Merseymog wrote: The only democratic way to settle the issue is to have a second public vote conducted honestly with the issues like immigration and the ECJ properly clarified.


The only 'democratic' way is to accept the result of the Referendum where the majority vote was to Leave....that's democracy....not moving goalposts to satisfy the 'losing side': :huh:


I still don't understand how having a vote on anything that is nowhere near settled or understood can be called 'democratic'. Especially as it will have such a big effect on the many who had no chance of voting for or against!
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